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Is self parody still annoying if it is conscious self-parody? The Beatles prove the answer is yes!

Here's a great article by Pierro Scaruffi on why the Beatles really were not that great. I don't agree with all the points he makes, nor his ratings of Beatles albums, but he certainly makes some excellent points and everyone who has 5+ Beatles albums on their Best Albums of All Time Chart should read it.

http://scaruffi.com/vol1/beatles.html

*Disclaimer: Scaruffi makes a fool of himself more than once in this article, but the general sentiment is on the right track.

Some people like to talk about the Beatles inventing all kinds of musical genres, but those kinds of people generally go way too far. The Beatles were certainly influential, but their influence and popularity originated from their early records which were mostly pop songs with a few minor innovations. Here's a good example of this in something I read the other day: "The Beatles invented punk, just listen to Helter Skelter"! The Beatles invented punk? Roger Daltrey sang My Generation in 1965 while the Beatles were still doing Rubber Soul, an album which did some influential things in terms of production because, you know, they were The Beatles and had the money for such experiments, but in the case of developing the "punk" sound The Who were years ahead of the Beatles.

Anyways, I could make arguments like this for a lot of "The Beatles are the best band ever and influenced everybody" type statements but it's kind of pointless. The big question is, if you think the Beatles are mediocre, why make an entire list devoted to them? Although there seem to be a few Scaruffian disciples on this site, the general sentiment appears to be pro-Beatles and pro-Radiohead (whom I will probably get around to making a list about later). The purpose of this list is to let people know how I feel about The Beatles music in general, and to make it more clear as to why I only have Abbey Road on my 60's list as opposed to 5 or 6 or their albums on my main list which, to a lot of people, might seem like a glaring omission. The Beatles certainly made some excellent songs, they were certainly influential, and they definitely sold a ton of records. Did they make any perfect records? I submit that they did not. Do they deserve more than one or two spots on anyone's best albums ever chart? I honestly don't know how anyone with a reasonable knowledge of music history can say they do. Of course, the word "reasonable" is highly subjective here. Please feel free to praise, express displeasure, or ask why I care, but most of all: please please go look at other charts.

My Ideal Beatles Album:

Side 1:
Tomorrow Never Knows
Strawberry Fields
Blackbird
Within You Without You
Dear Prudence
I Want You (She's So Heavy)
Helter Skelter

Side 2:
Abbey Road Medley (Polythene Pam-Her Majesty)
A Day In The Life
Revolution 9

Chart updated: 12/04/2015 08:45
(Created: 06/26/2015 02:31).
Chart size: 7 albums.

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Abbey Road

The Beatles

The Beatles most listenable album.

Great Songs:
1. Come Together
2. Something
6. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
14. Golden Slumbers

Decent Songs:
4. Oh! Darling
7. Here Comes The Sun
9. You Never Give Me Your Money
10. Sun King
12. Polythene Pam
13. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
15. Carry That Weight
16. The End
17. Her Majesty

Annoying/Unnecessary Filler:
3. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
5. Octopus's Garden
8. Because (More like "Because we needed another song on this album and didn't have any better ideas")
11. Mean Mr. Mustard [First added to this chart: 06/26/2015]

Year of Release:

1969

Appears in:

3,636 charts

Rank Score:

65,192

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Average Rating:

92 (4,520 votes)

Comments:

468

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The Beatles (The White Album)

The Beatles

A close second, but definitely second because of so much filler.

Great Songs:
2. Dear Prudence (Maybe my favorite Beatles of song of all time)
6. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
10. Blackbird
16. Julia
22. Helter Skelter
28. Revolution 9

Decent Songs:
1. Back in the USSR
3. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
5. The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
9. I'm So Tired
12. Rocky Raccoon
15. I Will
18. Yer Blues
20. Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me & My Monkey
21. Sexy Sadie
24. Revolution 1
27. Cry Baby Cry

Annoying/Unnecessary Filler:
4. Wild Honey Pie
7. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
8. Martha My Dear
11. Piggies
13. Don't Pass Me By
14. Why Don't We Do It in the Road
17. Birthday
19. Mother Nature's Son
23. Long, Long, Long
25. Honey Pie
26. Savoy Truffle
29. Good Night [First added to this chart: 06/26/2015]

Year of Release:

1968

Appears in:

2,874 charts

Rank Score:

43,166

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Overall Rank:

Average Rating:

89 (3,741 votes)

Comments:

337

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Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

The Beatles

June 1, 1967

Great Songs:
2. With a Little Help From My Friends
8. Within You Without You
13. A Day in the Life

Decent Songs:
4. Getting Better
5. Fixing a Hole
9. When I'm Sixty-Four
10. Lovely Rita

Annoying/Unnecessary Filler:
1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
3. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
6. She's Leaving Home
7. Being For the Benefit of Mr. Kite!
12. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)

More interesting/groundbreaking albums released just prior to this one:

1. 13th Floor Elevator: The Psychedelic Sounds
2. Velvet Underground & Nico: Self-Titled
3. The Doors: Self-Titled
4. Red Crayola: Parable Of Arable Land (Released at the same time as Sgt. Pepper)
5. Jimi Hendrix: Are You Experienced?
6. Holy Modal Rounders: Indian War Whoop
7. Frank Zappa: Absolutely Free
8. Love: Da Capo
9. Tim Buckley: Self-Titled
10. Byrds: Younger Than Yesterday [First added to this chart: 06/26/2015]

Year of Release:

1967

Appears in:

3,425 charts

Rank Score:

50,700

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August 5, 1966

Great Songs:
13. Got To Get You Into My Life
14. Tomorrow Never Knows

Decent Songs:
1. Taxman
2. Eleanor Rigby
8. Good Day Sunshine
9. And Your Bird Can Sing
10. For No One

Annoying/Unnecessary Filler:
3. I'm Only Sleeping
4. Love You To
5. Here, There and Everywhere
6. Yellow Submarine
7. She Said She Said
11. Doctor Robert
12. I Want To Tell You

More interesting/groundbreaking albums released just prior to this one:

1. The Mothers of Invention: Freak Out!
2: Bob Dylan: Blonde on Blonde
3. The Fugs: Second Album
4. The Beach Boys: Pet Sounds
5. Bob Dylan: Highway 61 Revisited
6. Byrds: Mr Tambourine Man
7. Seeds: self-titled
8. Monks: Black Monk Time
9. Rolling Stones: Aftermath
10. Robbie Basho: The Grail And The Lotus [First added to this chart: 06/26/2015]

Year of Release:

1966

Appears in:

3,486 charts

Rank Score:

56,645

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December 3, 1965

Great Songs:
2. Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
11. In My Life

Decent Songs:
9. Girl
13. If I Needed Someone
14. Run For Your Life

Annoying/Unnecessary Filler:
1. Drive My Car
3. You Won't See Me
4. Nowhere Man
5. Think For Yourself
6. The Word
7. Michelle
8. What Goes On
10. I'm Looking Through You
12. Wait

More interesting/groundbreaking albums released just prior to this one:

1.Bob Dylan: Highway 61 Revisited
2. Sandy Bull: Fantasia For Guitar & Banjo
3. Davy Graham: The Guitar Player
4. The Sonics: Here Are The Sonics!!!
5. Bob Dylan: Bring It All Back Home

Lots of Jazz [First added to this chart: 06/26/2015]

Year of Release:

1965

Appears in:

2,294 charts

Rank Score:

30,482

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Overall Rank:

Average Rating:

88 (3,295 votes)

Comments:

256

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Magical Mystery Tour
Soundtrack

The Beatles

Great Songs:
6. I Am The Walrus
8. Strawberry Fields Forever

Decent Songs:
7. Hello Goodbye
9. Penny Lane

Annoying/Unnecessary Filler:
1. Magical Mystery Tour
2. The Fool On The Hill
3. Flying
4. Blue Jay Way
5. Your Mother Should Know
10. Baby You're A Rich Man
11. All You Need Is Love [First added to this chart: 06/26/2015]

Year of Release:

1967

Appears in:

1,447 charts

Rank Score:

16,155

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Great Songs:
6. Let It Be
12. Get Back

Decent Songs:
2. Dig A Pony

Annoying/Unnecessary Filler:
1. Two Of Us
3. Across The Universe
4. I Me Mine
5. Dig İt
7. Maggie Mae
8. I'Ve Got A Feeling
9. One After 909
10. The Long And Winding Road
11. For You Blue [First added to this chart: 06/27/2015]

Year of Release:

1970

Appears in:

1,043 charts

Rank Score:

7,672

Rank in 1970:

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Overall Rank:

221

Average Rating:

80 (2,101 votes)

Comments:

127

Total albums: 7. Page 1 of 1

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The Beatles composition

Decade	Albums	%

1930s	0	0%
1940s	0	0%
1950s	0	0%
1960s	6	86%
1970s	1	14%
1980s	0	0%
1990s	0	0%
2000s	0	0%
2010s	0	0%
2020s	0	0%

Artist	Albums	%

The Beatles	7	100%

Country	Albums	%

	7	100%

Soundtrack?	Albums	%
No	6	86%
Yes	1	14%

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85/100	05/10/2017 12:02	Liedzeit	69	84/100
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From NSPE 03/21/2019 03:37

Ok the Beatles are overrated. But, at least 66% of their songs are decent or great (the others are practically silly soft AC).

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Liedzeit 05/10/2017 12:17

I agree with you list, certainly not with your choice of "fillers". Love Martha, my Dear and Honey Pie for example.
I also agree, that the reputation of the Beatles is better than they really deserve. But to my mind it is not so grotesquely out of proportion as in case of Radiohead.
As to Scaruffi, I really love the guy. He is brilliant, I like his political stuff the best, but I can read nearly everything he writes and learn something new. But his view on the Beatles is really ridiculous. I put it right in the same category as Nabokov’s claim that Dostoyevsky is a bad writer. You cannot take it seriously.

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