Say You Will (studio album) by Fleetwood Mac
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Say You Will is ranked 12th best out of 41 albums by Fleetwood Mac on BestEverAlbums.com.
The best album by Fleetwood Mac is Rumours which is ranked number 21 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 33,113.
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The tracks on this album have an average rating of 78 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).
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When they're good they're great. This album could have been weeded out a bit and made much stronger without the weaker material. Still a good record.
Surprisingly good and powerful album by Nicks/Buckingham.
If you listen to the album you don´t expect the Mac-members beeing in their 50`s.
The CD-era length of "Say You Will" (approximately 70 minutes) causes the album to overstay its welcome; however, there are numerous gems throughout by Buckingham and Nicks; (McVie is missed.)
Christine McVie - Fleetwood Mac's stalwart melody-maker, heaven-sent (see her: "Hold Me;" "Everywhere;" "You Make Loving Fun," etc) - sat out the recording of "Say You Will." Although McVie's voice can be heard on "Steal Your Heart Away" (recorded near the time of "The Dance" - the album's melodic, McVie-esque highpoint - and "Bleed to Love Her," McVie's songwriting is missed as a counterpoint to the signature styles of Buckingham and Nicks.
Indeed, Nicks and Buckingham have grown so distinct as songwriters - Buckingham's songs often sound like one-man guitar symphonies, and Nicks' sound very much like her solo work - that the 18 songs on "Say You Will" frequently play like two solo albums on shuffle.
Make no mistake: there are major songs here, worthy of inclusion on the greatest of Fleetwood Mac albums: "Red Rover;" "Destiny Rules;" "Say Goodbye;" "Goodbye Baby;" the aforementioned "Steal Your Heart Away;" "Silver Girl;" "Thrown Down;" "Say You Will;" "Peacekeeper;" and "Miranda."
If songs like "Come;" "Smile At You;" "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave;" "Bleed to Love Her," which was released on "The Dance" (1997;) and the truly unfortunate "Everybody Finds Out" were left as long lost b-sides, "Say You Will" - which features 10 or 11 very good-to-great songs - might not only feature the Mac's best songwriting since "Tusk," but might've been its most consistent album since "Rumours."
There's a GREAT album lurking in "Say You Will" - unfortunately, finding it means weeding through some uninspired dreck; however, luckily, in our era, we can delete and re-arrange as our tastes dictate.
Doesn't quite hold up for 18 tracks, but the return of Buckingham/Nicks produces some really good music, some of the most intriguing they've done (individually or as a group) in years. Some highlights are "Peacekeeper," "Illume," "Come," "Running Through the Garden," "Everybody Finds Out," "Smile at You" and "Destiny Rules." Buckingham's songs are particularly noteworthy.
Best song: "Red Rover"...interesting..Buckingham is really toying with two against three rhythms here
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