Heretic Pride (studio album) by The Mountain Goats

Heretic Pride by The Mountain Goats
Year: 2008
Release date: 2008-02-19
Overall rank: 18,462nd   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
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77/100 (from 40 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top albums of 2008 (349th)
Award Top albums of the 2000s (3,438th)
Award Best albums of all time (18,462nd)
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The Mountain Goats bestography

Heretic Pride is ranked 16th best out of 34 albums by The Mountain Goats on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by The Mountain Goats is The Sunset Tree which is ranked number 1333 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 1,315.

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This album is rated in the top 4% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 77.0/100, a mean average of 78.1/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 78.1/100. The standard deviation for this album is 13.5.

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In my opinion, this is the most cohesive and best produced Mountain Goats album. In a world where I can eliminate New Zion, it may be one of my 10 favorite albums of all time. The storytelling is superb, and it just oozes JD's conversational poetry in motion.
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From 12/09/2011 18:36
"sax rohmer #1" is my favorite mountain goats song since "this year". The do-or-die song off of Heretic Pride fights peril for love where the narrator sings "I am coming home to you / With my own blood in my mouth / And I am coming to you / If it’s the last thing that I do ". I love the power behind Darnielle's voice as if he's a defiant superhero frodo on the side of the volcano at the end of the third LOTR movie. This might be his best album. With a lot of songs as strong as "sax rohmer #1", it's really difficult to choose between this, "get lonely" and "the sunset tree". "heretic pride" is defiant, feeling "so proud to be alive" despite "the reckoning" that arrives like this: "Well they come and pull me from my house / And they drag my body through the streets / And the sun’s so hot I think I’ll catch fire and burn up / in the summer air so moist and sweet". "autoclave" is more fearful of the personal apocalypse singing "You ought to head for the exits, the sooner the better" and "i am this great, unstable mass of blood and foam / And no one in her right mind would make her home my home". "lovecraft in brooklyn" is pretty funky for a darnielle tune and that chugging guitar that only pauses at the bridges, then Darnielle goes frantic on lyrics "Someday somethings coming / From way out beyond the stars / To kill us while we stand here / It will store our brains in mason jar". The end is surely nigh. i love the vocal spazz-out at the end of "in the craters on the moon". "so desperate" is onomatopoeiatic in its delivery. "san bernadino" is a lush journey at sunrise through the city with plucked acoustic guitar & backing strings. i love the female fox on "marduk t-shirt men's room incident" -- a sad, delicate tale about acoustic guitar & strings. john darnielle storms out (for darnielle) with "michael myers resplendent", singing "when the house goes up in flames / No one emerges triumphantly from it / When the scum begins to circle the drain / (Well) everybody loves a winner".
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